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	<title>Comments on: Quick Thoughts: Death of the Plunging Shoulder</title>
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	<description>Drew Smith: design strategist, journalist and host of CreativeMornings/London</description>
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		<title>By: Drinking the Kool-aid Pt. 2: Hyundai loves Mazda &#124; DownsideUpDesign</title>
		<link>http://downsideupdesign.com/2010/02/10/quick-thoughts-death-of-the-plunging-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>Drinking the Kool-aid Pt. 2: Hyundai loves Mazda &#124; DownsideUpDesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve previously said, Hyundai is often a flatterer of the sincerest kind. It&#8217;s just that their concepts have always been deeply innovative, utilising new materials [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear Max!

Fantastic contribution as usual. Your knowledge of the finer points of surface sculpture always has me in raptures and this time is no exception.

I would agree with you that the axe wounds are mostly horrific, the Granite being the worst of a pretty average bunch.

Marc Newson once quipped that the BMW Z4 looked like it had been styled with a machete... far better that, in my books, than an axe and a baseball bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear Max!</p>
<p>Fantastic contribution as usual. Your knowledge of the finer points of surface sculpture always has me in raptures and this time is no exception.</p>
<p>I would agree with you that the axe wounds are mostly horrific, the Granite being the worst of a pretty average bunch.</p>
<p>Marc Newson once quipped that the BMW Z4 looked like it had been styled with a machete&#8230; far better that, in my books, than an axe and a baseball bat.</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that CLS ( and in to a certain extend the F700) looks forward motion, it not related only to the so called  plunging shoulder line (banana shape).

They look forward motion because of how the plunging shoulder integrates and merges with the rear wheelarch and ultimately how the wheelarch takes the highlight. 

It is in fact the mix of a curve and an highlight that make that motion. Think about it if is forward leaning, it must be compare something.

In fact the 2010 Sonata (basically Korean back to be korean), does not work in the same way simply because the overly sculpted banana shape produces a SHADOW, that overcast the highlights of the wheelarch, and the car loses completely the forward motion. This is a fine tuning work.

And fine tuning is something not for everybody.

And also please forget this new things as you call it open ended door scallop; that&#039; is not fine tuning, and neither sculpting. 

THAT IS SIMPLY AXING...

and an AXE does not have nothing artistic and neither poetic.

If that&#039;s is the new trend...bring back your master...because although i don&#039;t like it...he is much better than these AXE Barbarians...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that CLS ( and in to a certain extend the F700) looks forward motion, it not related only to the so called  plunging shoulder line (banana shape).</p>
<p>They look forward motion because of how the plunging shoulder integrates and merges with the rear wheelarch and ultimately how the wheelarch takes the highlight. </p>
<p>It is in fact the mix of a curve and an highlight that make that motion. Think about it if is forward leaning, it must be compare something.</p>
<p>In fact the 2010 Sonata (basically Korean back to be korean), does not work in the same way simply because the overly sculpted banana shape produces a SHADOW, that overcast the highlights of the wheelarch, and the car loses completely the forward motion. This is a fine tuning work.</p>
<p>And fine tuning is something not for everybody.</p>
<p>And also please forget this new things as you call it open ended door scallop; that&#8217; is not fine tuning, and neither sculpting. </p>
<p>THAT IS SIMPLY AXING&#8230;</p>
<p>and an AXE does not have nothing artistic and neither poetic.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s is the new trend&#8230;bring back your master&#8230;because although i don&#8217;t like it&#8230;he is much better than these AXE Barbarians&#8230;</p>
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